NKR
04-24 01:31 PM
Folks, it is time for the H1B community to grow up. Business is business. I am not a blood sucking deshi firm, or a silent partner. On the contrary, I happen to be a trained mediator, published author on conflict management and professional in strategy/organizations. My view is pretty simple: mathematical 'tit for tat' doesnt take you far. Build, nourish and manage relationships. Money and math are secondary. Its time to grow up.
MR. Obviously
Quite right, I know you meant that managing relationships has to be from both the sides, but with most desi employers it has become a one way street. Even with all the effort to manage relationship, the employee still gets scr*** and this needs to stop.
MR. Obviously
Quite right, I know you meant that managing relationships has to be from both the sides, but with most desi employers it has become a one way street. Even with all the effort to manage relationship, the employee still gets scr*** and this needs to stop.
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kg318
04-24 10:18 AM
What wrong he did? Nothing illegal but certainly not the best practise. Atleast he has been insensitive to his former employer.
what in the world makes this insensitive. h1b employees are not the bonding labours to the employers. If the employee leaves the company within 2 or 3 month after all the pain company had taken like spending for h1b filing training or providing placement, then that would be insensitive. After 2 yrs of serving, if the employee wants to look out for something better, employer shud make the exit smooter. And some else said earlier that its only employees who force employers for GC. i do not think so. If u see any advertisements posted by desi employers, the packages come along with GC process. they highlight GC point to attract the employees. yes it is true that most of the employees look out for GC for settlement. but that doesn't mean they force their employers who are not ready to do it. they might choose someone who offered GC process as a part of the package they r offered in the first. in such cases the chances of employers who do not offer GC process to get h1b's drop down drastically. thats the reason they offer GC.
Also GC makes long term commitment between an employer and an employee.
Everyone knows how long GC process is gonna take. So for all the yrs h1b's r holded to their employers, which is definetly making the employers business lot more easier. so why in the world an employer especially desi's wouldn't want to file GC?????
what in the world makes this insensitive. h1b employees are not the bonding labours to the employers. If the employee leaves the company within 2 or 3 month after all the pain company had taken like spending for h1b filing training or providing placement, then that would be insensitive. After 2 yrs of serving, if the employee wants to look out for something better, employer shud make the exit smooter. And some else said earlier that its only employees who force employers for GC. i do not think so. If u see any advertisements posted by desi employers, the packages come along with GC process. they highlight GC point to attract the employees. yes it is true that most of the employees look out for GC for settlement. but that doesn't mean they force their employers who are not ready to do it. they might choose someone who offered GC process as a part of the package they r offered in the first. in such cases the chances of employers who do not offer GC process to get h1b's drop down drastically. thats the reason they offer GC.
Also GC makes long term commitment between an employer and an employee.
Everyone knows how long GC process is gonna take. So for all the yrs h1b's r holded to their employers, which is definetly making the employers business lot more easier. so why in the world an employer especially desi's wouldn't want to file GC?????
life99f
07-08 07:01 PM
count me in. 31 so far.
I was working on DC but so far just received 30 votes..
Like I said I will talk to core members if only we have 1000 members who wants to do it in DC on July 14th.. So many members are online but they don't even want to take a poll.. I don't know what to expect from members..
I was working on DC but so far just received 30 votes..
Like I said I will talk to core members if only we have 1000 members who wants to do it in DC on July 14th.. So many members are online but they don't even want to take a poll.. I don't know what to expect from members..
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bebar
06-17 09:32 PM
I am waiting ..
Mailed to NSC on: May 31st.
Received at NSC on: June 1st
140 approved from : CSC
Receipt Date : Not yet received.
Is there any one who filed on June 1st not yet received the receipt?
Mailed to NSC on: May 31st.
Received at NSC on: June 1st
140 approved from : CSC
Receipt Date : Not yet received.
Is there any one who filed on June 1st not yet received the receipt?
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immi_twinges
07-11 01:17 PM
There are some very good quotes from
American x presidents , socialists and authors
These should be included because Americans are more aware of them and its a symbol that we respect the American leaders thoughts and aspirations.
I have posted them on the other thread.
American x presidents , socialists and authors
These should be included because Americans are more aware of them and its a symbol that we respect the American leaders thoughts and aspirations.
I have posted them on the other thread.
marlon2006
06-22 10:05 AM
If that was all that easy, I am sure Pres. Fox would hire 3,000,000 telemarketers to call Senators from Mexico and put a request pro amnesty on daily basis. Somehow it is obvious that the person calling or supporting CIR typically have vested interests on that; I think when one detects that direct beneficiaries of amnesty - not an US person - are campaigning, lawmakers probably they tend to ignore that.
Sen. Specter is just going to have his ears full. I can imagine what angry US citizens could tell him on those hearings. If CIR passage depends on positive feedback from those hearings, it is going to be tough. I am sorry to tell you, but I have been talking to many Americans on this. Hearings will just bring the truth to the surface, and that means border enforcement, less immigration, illegal and illegal.
Regarding feedback from the public on skilled legal immigration, read the article below. Then go to "Discuss" and see what Americans are saying about us. They are making a tough point that in these inevitable times of offshoring, we are coming here to take away jobs that are left.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_go_co/immigration_getting_on_line_7;_ylt=Amc.zZb07X6A849 i9qW0XfBQuk0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCU l
Why dont we include the illegals in our plan. Now thats what is called comprehensive. A football stadium with people standing outside is what you get.
Sen. Specter is just going to have his ears full. I can imagine what angry US citizens could tell him on those hearings. If CIR passage depends on positive feedback from those hearings, it is going to be tough. I am sorry to tell you, but I have been talking to many Americans on this. Hearings will just bring the truth to the surface, and that means border enforcement, less immigration, illegal and illegal.
Regarding feedback from the public on skilled legal immigration, read the article below. Then go to "Discuss" and see what Americans are saying about us. They are making a tough point that in these inevitable times of offshoring, we are coming here to take away jobs that are left.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060622/ap_on_go_co/immigration_getting_on_line_7;_ylt=Amc.zZb07X6A849 i9qW0XfBQuk0A;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCU l
Why dont we include the illegals in our plan. Now thats what is called comprehensive. A football stadium with people standing outside is what you get.
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dehradoon
10-08 05:54 PM
All EB categories will be current all the time. As soon as a I485 EB case is filed the visa number should be allocated to the first 8000 odd cases for that category based on the PD of application. If a new case is filed tomorrow with a old PD he will get the visa number and the last guys application will move to waiting list. At the beginning of the year all visa numbers are allocated and nothing is wasted, even if the case is having issues like RFE, FBI check, etc the applicant knows that once cleared he will get his GC.
Can you explain why you think the lawyers will laugh it off? Or is it just that you say it because someone is saying something which you don't agree with?
A clarification regarding the flower campaign. I said the AILA law suit and the congresswomen letter to the chief also had lot of weight. It is just not the flower campaign for your information, if you beleive so it is your opinion just like I have mine.
Correction, 25% of the less than 8000 visa numbers. First is the per country quota then its the distribution by quaters.
Can you explain why you think the lawyers will laugh it off? Or is it just that you say it because someone is saying something which you don't agree with?
A clarification regarding the flower campaign. I said the AILA law suit and the congresswomen letter to the chief also had lot of weight. It is just not the flower campaign for your information, if you beleive so it is your opinion just like I have mine.
Correction, 25% of the less than 8000 visa numbers. First is the per country quota then its the distribution by quaters.
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shailesh2006
06-07 05:12 PM
Hi
My 485 application received by NSC on May 24, 2007 but still no receipt and even did not cashed the check.
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My 485 application received by NSC on May 24, 2007 but still no receipt and even did not cashed the check.
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sss9i
09-17 05:17 PM
PD: June 2007
Labor:EB2
I-140,I-485,I-765,I-131 filed: 08/01/2007
Received at NSC:08/02/2007
Receipt dated: 08/02/2007
Notice Date : 09/11/2007
Not attending DC rally due to personal reasons.I am from Phoenix.
Best of luck to all of you. We are all in this together and I'm sure We will Success.
Transaction ID: 0P237601M6361433A. I will contribute more.
Labor:EB2
I-140,I-485,I-765,I-131 filed: 08/01/2007
Received at NSC:08/02/2007
Receipt dated: 08/02/2007
Notice Date : 09/11/2007
Not attending DC rally due to personal reasons.I am from Phoenix.
Best of luck to all of you. We are all in this together and I'm sure We will Success.
Transaction ID: 0P237601M6361433A. I will contribute more.
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bigboy007
07-04 04:55 PM
BHai log : when some of my friends called USCIS they said they are NOT going to return the Files FOR NOW , i dont know why and what for . SO if somebody receives the files (which i dont think is going to happen so quickly though) please let us know asap.
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puvathoor
04-22 02:28 PM
If I were in a similar situation, I would be leaning towards taking some action so that they know that they cannot step over the rights.. If they employ a person, pay him as per the law. If they decide to file for GC, then the employer needs to pay for it, per the law.
The problem with walking down the slippery slope of being amicable is that the boldness to stand up for the right thing also starts slipping away.
I like the idea of writing a letter and reminding them of the law. Even if you might not gain (forget the $4Gs for a sec), you will be making the path better for everyone behind you. And that, my friend, is an excellent thing.
The problem with walking down the slippery slope of being amicable is that the boldness to stand up for the right thing also starts slipping away.
I like the idea of writing a letter and reminding them of the law. Even if you might not gain (forget the $4Gs for a sec), you will be making the path better for everyone behind you. And that, my friend, is an excellent thing.
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unitednations
08-25 03:39 AM
I am not sure what the writer is trying to say.
In my field we try to hire the best applicant for the job whether American, European or Asian or from elsewhere does not matter. Otherwise you get a bunch that do not know how to convert units and crash things ... let me not name them.
Transfers are for people to change jobs. I have done it. My employer(s) do(did) it all the time.
What do you propose? Keep waiting for green cards 10-15yrs without knowing if it will be approved in the end.
H1B is for labor shortage. If there is an abuse then the govt needs to crack down. If the laws come short, then better laws can be crafted.
these are very complex issues, where a lot of people try to trivialize or minimize. I haven't visited the forums in a while but doesn't look like much has changed. Division betwen IT and non IT. Dvision between people working at "full time positions". division between eb2 and eb3; country quota, etc.
Look what department of labor is now doing with Fragomen clients. Staffing companies generally do not use fragomen; they are the biggest of big companie. Fragomen made a lot of oise regarding immigration. In this country you make noise people look at what you are doing and figure out a way to make you shut up. Now; DOL has figured it out. they are sending second audit requests and people are scrambling trying to figure out wha to do. Do you not think that these companies are going to pause in filing labors for people going forward due to the additional hassle and the bad publicity if their labors do get denied?
In my field we try to hire the best applicant for the job whether American, European or Asian or from elsewhere does not matter. Otherwise you get a bunch that do not know how to convert units and crash things ... let me not name them.
Transfers are for people to change jobs. I have done it. My employer(s) do(did) it all the time.
What do you propose? Keep waiting for green cards 10-15yrs without knowing if it will be approved in the end.
H1B is for labor shortage. If there is an abuse then the govt needs to crack down. If the laws come short, then better laws can be crafted.
these are very complex issues, where a lot of people try to trivialize or minimize. I haven't visited the forums in a while but doesn't look like much has changed. Division betwen IT and non IT. Dvision between people working at "full time positions". division between eb2 and eb3; country quota, etc.
Look what department of labor is now doing with Fragomen clients. Staffing companies generally do not use fragomen; they are the biggest of big companie. Fragomen made a lot of oise regarding immigration. In this country you make noise people look at what you are doing and figure out a way to make you shut up. Now; DOL has figured it out. they are sending second audit requests and people are scrambling trying to figure out wha to do. Do you not think that these companies are going to pause in filing labors for people going forward due to the additional hassle and the bad publicity if their labors do get denied?
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dixie
12-11 04:27 PM
Totally agreed that quota increase is controversial and an alternative approach must be agreed upon - 1932, CIR and now SKIL has taught us that bitter lesson. I am not by any means questioning the wisdom of going after the low-hanging fruits like 485 filing etc. All I am saying is - we cannot assume everything else remains the same. Things like 485 filing etc are our niche goals - no corporate interest is served by that and in a brutally capitalistic country thats a huge disadvantage.The fact is ANY relief, whether it includes quota increase or not, still takes a lot of lobbying and money to introduce all on its own strength.Yours and mine promotion/career prospects are the least of the lawmakers' worries, however non-controversial it may be and however deserving we may be. The need of the hour is to increase our membership base and contributions - lets face it, 200k in funds is not going to get us too far on our own steam. If 6000 of us could achieve so much in an year, imagine what 100k will do. That way we will be a credible enough force to be heard and respected. It still beats me how we have only 6000 odd members despite the dire situation that the majority of EB applicants find themselves in since 2001.
Most of the time we have to search for bills to attach our provisions anyways. The only problem is that right now all our provisions are either being labeled as "quota increase" or are being attached to "Quota Increase" bills. Try and remember S-1932, CIR and SKIL. AILA will always be after H1 Increase and so will Big Corps. Only this time instead of seperating ourselves as "EB only" we try to piggyback on either "Quota increase" bills OR we try and piggyback on just about ANY bill we can piggyback onto. Most of the times weird bills get combined (S1932 for example).
If 2006 has taught us anything it should be "Do NOT try and increase quotas and numbers". For starters it takes TOO long to do and there is MUCH more opposition from even the average American. Remember the IV Core telling us how the Anti-immigrant calls far outnumbered our calls during the Recent SKIL bill? Guys even the biggest Corps have been unsuccessful in getting Visa number increases. Do we honestly believe that with 6,000 members who are NOT a voting base (and may never be) + the lack of funds, we are going to do what these big guns have not been able to accomplish? Am I saying we should give up? HELL NO!! All I am saying is, it is time to review our strategy. Over and above all this, if we think that our current course will bring us victory then let the majority prevail.
Most of the time we have to search for bills to attach our provisions anyways. The only problem is that right now all our provisions are either being labeled as "quota increase" or are being attached to "Quota Increase" bills. Try and remember S-1932, CIR and SKIL. AILA will always be after H1 Increase and so will Big Corps. Only this time instead of seperating ourselves as "EB only" we try to piggyback on either "Quota increase" bills OR we try and piggyback on just about ANY bill we can piggyback onto. Most of the times weird bills get combined (S1932 for example).
If 2006 has taught us anything it should be "Do NOT try and increase quotas and numbers". For starters it takes TOO long to do and there is MUCH more opposition from even the average American. Remember the IV Core telling us how the Anti-immigrant calls far outnumbered our calls during the Recent SKIL bill? Guys even the biggest Corps have been unsuccessful in getting Visa number increases. Do we honestly believe that with 6,000 members who are NOT a voting base (and may never be) + the lack of funds, we are going to do what these big guns have not been able to accomplish? Am I saying we should give up? HELL NO!! All I am saying is, it is time to review our strategy. Over and above all this, if we think that our current course will bring us victory then let the majority prevail.
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kondur_007
07-28 01:04 PM
Sorry to read blaming debates between eb3 and eb2. Insted of blaming, it is better to take some action. Based on current practice by DOS, EB3-I will be like this for ever, unless more number opens up by any legislative changes. As per law, each EB catagories are allowed to have 40K visas. As demand for EB2 is more, (paricularly by In,Ch) one can not expect any flow from EB2 to EB3 . This is law one can not change it.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
This is exactly I have been trying to communicate for a long time.
I said this in my previous posts:
Following is my post from May:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18876
Then I said it again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19058&page=2
Then I said it again and again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=261937#post261937
And I urge again, this is not the "fight between EB2 and EB3" but a reality that something needs to be done for EB3. Although I am not EB3 myself, I have many frieds stuck in EB3, and it is very unfair to them and their families to wait several years in line.
Now I am coming to important point to take some action by EB3-I. The law says, 7% country quota will be applied in each prefrence catagory if worldwide demand for visas is more than supply in that catagory. But the law does not set any time frame. Therefore, the real threat for EB3-I is EB3-ROW. As per current practice, untill EB3-ROW become "current" EB3-I will get only 3000 visas per year. What happen if EB3-ROW never become "current" for next 50 years? EB3-I will be stuck in 2001 or 2002 for ever. To add my point, let us imagine a hypothetical case. Lets say in 2010 about 1 million ROW guys neend EB3 visa number. All has PD 2010. EB3-In will be stuck in 2001 till one million EB-ROW with PD 2010 recives GC. In nut shell, a EB3-ROW with latest PD will be given more preference than EB3-In with PD 2001. As current practice does not set any time limit, new flow of applications keeps retrogressed countries stuck for ever. This point has to be conveyed to DOS and USCIS to change the practice. Applications receviced in one fiscal year has to be cleared (grant GC) to process the application from next year. This way new applications from ROW will not stuck the retrogreesd countries for ever.
This is exactly I have been trying to communicate for a long time.
I said this in my previous posts:
Following is my post from May:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18876
Then I said it again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19058&page=2
Then I said it again and again:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=261937#post261937
And I urge again, this is not the "fight between EB2 and EB3" but a reality that something needs to be done for EB3. Although I am not EB3 myself, I have many frieds stuck in EB3, and it is very unfair to them and their families to wait several years in line.
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vinabath
04-24 01:50 PM
Quite right, I know you meant that managing relationships has to be from both the sides, but with most desi employers it has become a one way street. Even with all the effort to manage relationship, the employee still gets scr*** and this needs to stop.
Do you have any suggestions?
Do you have any suggestions?
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ruby
07-20 11:50 AM
I have a suggestion regarding this (just a thought). Maybe some DC members can provide contact to core IV, so that when these guys go to DC, they can stay with IV members than staying in hotels. This will save some of their personal money. We should donate our airlines miles (I know this was discussed earlier also).
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05-29 08:46 PM
Great going... Thank you so much...
In the past week I compleleted the following:
1) Contrubuted to IV again
2) Emailed 10 senators
3) Also emailed two Senators from my state
4) Emailed 30+ reporters of national news channels
5) Emailed all local Chicago newspapers
6) Emailed press release to 20+ Indian newspaper operating in US to increase awareness
Will keep contributing....
In the past week I compleleted the following:
1) Contrubuted to IV again
2) Emailed 10 senators
3) Also emailed two Senators from my state
4) Emailed 30+ reporters of national news channels
5) Emailed all local Chicago newspapers
6) Emailed press release to 20+ Indian newspaper operating in US to increase awareness
Will keep contributing....
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newu77
08-20 04:15 PM
I called on friday. Had to explain the lady that as per press-release, my receipt number should be issued. After 20 minutes of discussions, she escalated my call to another officer. She checked the database with my name, DOB and A# but she could not find any thing related to I-485.
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TheOmbudsman
06-27 11:57 AM
I believe it when I see it.
We should hire a lobbyst who can sell the idea to Sen. Specter and others pro amnesty lawmakers that they should hold on with the illegal alien case and work on the legal issue right now. I've seen this before where Sen. Specter claims that he could come up with a compromise, and yet he always show up with a redefinition of the word 'amnesty', what doesn't go far.
We should hire a lobbyst who can sell the idea to Sen. Specter and others pro amnesty lawmakers that they should hold on with the illegal alien case and work on the legal issue right now. I've seen this before where Sen. Specter claims that he could come up with a compromise, and yet he always show up with a redefinition of the word 'amnesty', what doesn't go far.
amitjoey
11-17 04:40 PM
Please also send the text by email to the staff you have rapport with at the congressional offices.
gccovet
02-10 02:53 PM
Hi GCCovet,
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
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Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
Thank you Sanjay!!!
With Sanjay's additional contribution as promised, we are now at $1169.00
Thank you to all who have contributed so far... and a request to those who have not contributed yet, to please contribute.
Thank you all.
GCCovet
As promised, I am contributing another $25.00 as $1000.00 has crossed.
I will again donate another $25 when we cross $2000.00
Details:
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Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #3LK7417540480844L)
Total:$25.00 USD
Date:Feb. 10, 2009
Time:11:23:38 PST
Status:Completed
Subject:Immigration Voice
Method: PayPal
Thank you Sanjay!!!
With Sanjay's additional contribution as promised, we are now at $1169.00
Thank you to all who have contributed so far... and a request to those who have not contributed yet, to please contribute.
Thank you all.
GCCovet
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